even make rent, much less a record. he said, how much do you need? and he said, about $10,000. and he said, where do i send the check? not do i own the music. some people who put up the money only could afford to pay $5 because they've been out of work for a year, but they really wanted to help new orleans. >> they paid back in a year. let's say how could we help other artists and loan it to other musicians. that's the start of threat head records. we loan the music, they keep the masters, they keep everything but then they're required to pay back within a year or so, there have been some who struggled to pay back.